On Thursday, a fiery exchange over transgender issues ensued during an episode of Dr. Phil. A 5th-grade teacher decried the excesses of gender ideology, while a transgender activist defended the claim that men can menstruate on the show.
During one segment of the show, Dr. Phil showed tampons being given out in boy’s restrooms in schools.
The 5th-grade teacher, Ray, objected to the idea that giving boys access to tampons was necessary.
“Men do not menstruate. Only women menstruate,” the teacher named Ray declared.
A transgender activist named Jordan replied, “Cis-men don’t menstruate, but trans men do menstruate, same as non-binary people,” adding, “Menstruating is not exclusive to women.”
The debate revolved around a ‘Gender Unicorn’ handout given to students of all ages that promotes left-wing views of sexuality and gender.
Ray said that while people should be able to ‘live their lives,’ dressing like the opposite sex does not change the reality of your biological sex.
“They’re not men… they’re women dressed as men. You are not a man. You can pretend to be a man, and that’s ok. That’s perfectly fine. Live your life,” he said.
After he was repeatedly interrupted by hostile activists and audience members, one audience member said that he was the one who was being rude for not affirming the gender identity of transgender people.
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“I’d like to understand from your perspective why you don’t believe it’s rude and why you think you have a right to – when someone identifies a certain way – for you to tell them that that is not correct that particular gender or identity?” the audience member asked.
“Why do I feel that it’s right to tell them the truth?” Ray responded.
“But it’s not the truth,” Jordan interjected.
5th grade teacher enrages activists, audience by denying trans ideology: 'That's not hateful, that's a fact'
"If you want to identify in any way you can, you’re free to do so. But that does not mean that the rest of us have to join that illusion."https://t.co/jF72E4VXKH
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“The people who hate the truth” object to it “because they see the truth as hateful,” he responded. “If you want to identify in any way you can, you’re free to do so. But that does not mean that the rest of us have to join that illusion.”
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While Ray received significant backlash on the show, his views align with where most Americans stand on transgender issues.
A new poll finds that a majority of Americans oppose the radical transgender agenda, especially in schools. https://t.co/Vo8unN4QuP
— Breitbart News (@BreitbartNews) April 15, 2023
A YouGov poll conducted this month found that Americans oppose a wide array of accommodations for transgender people that burden others, undermine the rights of parents, or are potentially harmful to children.
Sixty-four percent of respondents said that people under 18 should not be able to attend drag shows, while 55 percent said that transgender men should not be allowed to compete against women in sports.
Still, audience members accused him of being ‘hateful’ for refusing to accommodate transgender people.
“You are being hateful. When you tell somebody that identifies as a man that they’re not a man, that’s hateful,” the audience member said.
“That’s not hateful,” Ray said. “That’s a fact.”
Ray further clarified that he had no ‘hate’ in his heart during the episode.
“I disagree with you, and so you call it’ hate,'” Ray replied. “But there’s no hate in my heart at all.”
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